Post by peeves on Aug 17, 2021 21:53:08 GMT -5
I watched a fair bit of the media interview with the Taliban on BBC... Can we just be clear-the Taliban are lying. There is no change of heart about women or those who worked alongside our troops. They are brutal and vicious killers.
They appear to have reformed somewhat, but I guarantee this is just to lull the world into a sense of complacentry, there is no new 'woke' Taliban even tho..
www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-58241000
Did anyone see this
www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/over-600-afghans-cram-into-us-cargo-plane-desperate-flight-kabul-2021-08-17/
Going back a bit, Bush screwed up leaving allies in Iraq to face consequences. George H W that is.."However, Bush ultimately would leave the Shiite and Kurdish insurgents he urged to rise up against Saddam in 1991 to face the dictator's wrath alone, leading to thousands of deaths. He stopped too soon, leaving Saddam
to wreak vengeance and another Iraq war.
Then the screw up of his son,
That mixed picture only extends to the presidency of his son, George W. Bush, who ordered the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq that overthrew Saddam. He invaded Iraq with phony reasons and lies.
Then Obama's continued war in Afghanistan with lies, "Barack Obama has been accused in a new book of misleading the public about Afghanistan
The authors of The Afghanistan Papers, serialized in The Washington Post, say that Obama's public declarations contrasted with behind-the-scenes reality
Obama had sent a 'surge' of 100,000 troops into the country from 2009-11
On December 28, 2014, Obama said the war was officially over after 13 years"
Author Craig Whitlock described the 'baldfaced' declaration as 'among the most egregious deceptions and lies that U.S. leaders spread during two decades of warfare'
He said that the deaths of U.S. troops in the country continued unabated; bombings and combat missions continued
Added that by the end of 2015 the pretense of ending the war had been abandoned
In October 2015 Obama told the nation that at least 5,500 troops would remain in Afghanistan after he left office in January 2017 Barack Obama misled the country about ending the war in Afghanistan,
The authors of The Afghanistan Papers, serialized in The Washington Post, say that Obama's public declarations contrasted with behind-the-scenes reality
Obama had sent a 'surge' of 100,000 troops into the country from 2009-11
On December 28, 2014, Obama said the war was officially over after 13 years"
Author Craig Whitlock described the 'baldfaced' declaration as 'among the most egregious deceptions and lies that U.S. leaders spread during two decades of warfare'
He said that the deaths of U.S. troops in the country continued unabated; bombings and combat missions continued
Added that by the end of 2015 the pretense of ending the war had been abandoned
In October 2015 Obama told the nation that at least 5,500 troops would remain in Afghanistan after he left office in January 2017 Barack Obama misled the country about ending the war in Afghanistan,
Trump made things worse by his open declarations of getting all military out of Afghanistan 'by Christmas'. That's when the Taliban started to reinforce areas around cities just waiting for Biden's foolhardy given date of Sept. 11 withdrawal.
With the mess all left behind, it's hard to pick a single looser, but there's plenty of blame to go round.
History is written by the winner.